Best Gaming Mice According to r/MouseReview

"I just yolo purchased a ZA12-c because it was on a slight Microcenter sale and was inspired by your post. Feels incredible on first grip. I shall report back if I fall in love as hard as you have."

"I personally found the za12 and za13's hump obnoxiously big and I just couldn't get used to it. Made spraying/shooting in general feel really off. I am used to playing on a Sensei Ten, and just got the endgamegear xm2 8k. Haven't plugged it in yet, but just holding it in my hand felt pretty nice."

"The za12-c will definitely fit this criteria in my opinion because of the hump and overall shape. If you are willing to wait, razer are coming out with the viper v3 pro (same shape as the viper v3 hyperspeed which is currently out on the market) which is essentially a viper shape with a higher hump. It will still be a couple months out as it has been only seen used by cs2 pros during a tournament just like where the viper v2 pro was seen used by csgo pros months before the mouse came out."

"* VXE R1 A solid copy of the X2V2 mouse from Pulsar that is suitable for pretty much all grip types at a solid 30$ * Zaopin Z1 Pro is more of a traditional Egg shape that works very well for relaxed claw but is overall a larger mouse might work for you but might not, usually 30$ * VGN Dragonfly F1 is more of an original shape with a larger rear hump and shorter front end more 40$. * Attack Shark X3 has a solid shape like a smaller GPX and fairly solid feel, you can find it for like 20$ * Machose A5 is much the same, a smaller GPX but more of an exact GPX shape like 30$. * Delux M800 and M600 are both Viper clones, the M600 is the smaller one. Good for kinda all control types like 40$ * Puretrak Valor usually on sale for like 30$ is a direct GPX clone * Phlyina S450 is a HTS+ clone that's usually like 40$, pretty solid for claw grip overall a good mouse that has surprisingly good quality. * Ajazz has a ton of mice at different styles that are very solid. Some more GPX, omse more like the S450, and many others for mostly 30$. * Darmoshark makes solid mice that are their own kinda shape that are very solid for like 50-80$ * Keychron M2 is an extremely high quality mouse from a good keyboard company with it's own original shape 50$ * Attackshark R1/Metapanda01 is a near copy of the Deathadder Mini for 20/40$ Nearly every mouse on this list uses a 3395 Sensor and are about 50g in terms of weight. Performance will be mostly the same across all of them, and most all of them are solid and cheap. The Logitech one isn't bad, but you could get much lighter mice that fit far more handstyles for much less money with better overall sensors and are wireless. At that point why should you get the Logitech when the VXE R1 exists? Copy paste message from I don't remember who"

"I have both mices. Bought the Z1 Pro initially because of my small hands (16cm) and relaxed claw. Used it for 6 months and it was a pretty enjoyable experience. The shape is just perfect to me. It also comes with dot skates, so I highly advise you to put them on because the glide gets so much better. Sadly, after 5 months, the scroll wheel started to fail and behave erratically, so the mouse got became pretty unusable. I strongly considered buying another Z1 Pro but hopped on the VXE R1 Pro bandwagon. I've been using it for 2 months now and will give my pros and cons compared to the Z1 PRO: Pros: build quality | coating | software | feels like it will last longer than my z1 pro Cons: as the shape of the z1 pro was practically perfect for me, everything else will not be as good immediately, but I've already adjusted to the VXE R1 Pro and now it feels almost as good as the z1 pro. I even thought about getting another Z1 after I had already bought the R1 Pro, but the thing is you just gotta be patient to adapt | default skates were kinda bad, mouse felt heavy and the glide just wasnt good, so I just replaced them with the dot skates from the z1 pro and now its pretty good Overall, In your place I'd get the VXE R1 Pro because the shape is super safe, which means everyone can use it and adapt, just takes time. The mouse feels of higher quality than the Z1 Pro and also more durable. As I said, I absolutely love the shape of the Z1 Pro, it fits perfect in my hand/relaxed claw grip, but I wpuldn't recommend because the egg shape is not for everyone and also because of the scroll wheel problem in my particular unit. I understand its a tough choice haha."

"if I didnt already have a Z1 Pro I would probably go for that Atomic Purple just to match my old Gameboy Color"

"Still solid but you could get others with less weight and more modern tech. I'd reccomend a Puretrak Valor for like 35$ which has a more modern 3395 sensor and the near same weight as a superlight. Otherwise there's some other mice in the same price range that are very solid."

"I have a few mice where it actually has ended up scratching in the middle when using dot skates or smaller glass ones without the mouse sensor skate. My HTX and Valor had that issue but my Atoantis Mini has not."

"Puretrak Valor is a banger for the price. Currently $36 and it's the closest clone you'll get I believe. Quality is nice too, good switches, better side buttons. True weight is 68g?"

"why can't one of these companies take the coolermaster mm720 mouse shape and make a better one. that is the true ergo endgame shape. xenics made one but its meh, itd be so easy to just slap a 3395 in a shell with better switches too"

"Would love a new version of this that is longer. Love the concept but the MM720 is too short in my hands."

"Honestly it depends. As someone who mained the MM720 for 2 years, it’s a very different feel, more narrow for sure. As a natural fingertip player, I immediately aimed better on the M5 and Zeromouse. My hand is more comfortable over long periods on the MM720 and it’ll be my desktop/non fps gaming mouse but when I need to be absolutely precise it goes into the backseat. Do you fingertip the mm720 or do you claw? If fingertip, I’d def give the M5 a try!"

"I have the entire Vaxee lineup. If you like the left side of the AX if not the height, then you’ll like the NP-01. XE is wide and feels wide. Still a great shape but I don’t feel it’s as flexible a shape. Click feel is best on NPs imo. XE clicks feel a little sloppy. NP-01 over the XE for me, and it’s an easy call. I bounce between the AX and NP-01 a lot and I love them both."

"Agree with this 100% Vaxee stock skates are weird and scratchy and seems to get faster as they wear in - have tried loads for the np01s but waiting for eSports tiger to bring the arc1 V2 out for them (if they ever will) Pulsar and egg skates have been consistently great for me"

"If you’re interested in ergo still the Vaxee Zygen NP-01 (w/4k Dongle) is good. Pulsar makes good mice so if you are gravitating towards that you should check it out"

"I got a VXE R1 SE for $0.01 recently on Aliexpress and I can't say it's bad at all!"

"They are but all of these work for me like being melted to my hand for different grips. I bought VXE R1 Pro and Logitech Superlight and I hated them including Razer Viper and Logitech G502."

"* VXE R1 A solid copy of the X2V2 mouse from Pulsar that is suitable for pretty much all grip types at a solid 30$ * Zaopin Z1 Pro is more of a traditional Egg shape that works very well for relaxed claw but is overall a larger mouse might work for you but might not, usually 30$ * VGN Dragonfly F1 is more of an original shape with a larger rear hump and shorter front end more 40$. * Attack Shark X3 has a solid shape like a smaller GPX and fairly solid feel, you can find it for like 20$ * Machose A5 is much the same, a smaller GPX but more of an exact GPX shape like 30$. * Delux M800 and M600 are both Viper clones, the M600 is the smaller one. Good for kinda all control types like 40$ * Puretrak Valor usually on sale for like 30$ is a direct GPX clone * Phlyina S450 is a HTS+ clone that's usually like 40$, pretty solid for claw grip overall a good mouse that has surprisingly good quality. * Ajazz has a ton of mice at different styles that are very solid. Some more GPX, omse more like the S450, and many others for mostly 30$. * Darmoshark makes solid mice that are their own kinda shape that are very solid for like 50-80$ * Keychron M2 is an extremely high quality mouse from a good keyboard company with it's own original shape 50$ * Attackshark R1/Metapanda01 is a near copy of the Deathadder Mini for 20/40$ Nearly every mouse on this list uses a 3395 Sensor and are about 50g in terms of weight. Performance will be mostly the same across all of them, and most all of them are solid and cheap. The Logitech one isn't bad, but you could get much lighter mice that fit far more handstyles for much less money with better overall sensors and are wireless. At that point why should you get the Logitech when the VXE R1 exists? Copy paste message from I don't remember who"

"HS is massively narrower in hand, again eloshapes isnt end all be all Credit to the EC3 for being a small ergo but correctly keeping good width, which for some reason no other mini ergos take note of"

"I have the fk2-dw and ec3-c the my fk2-dw has better coating my hand doesn't slip on the mouse while it does on the ec3-c"

"I have the u2 but ec3-c is my mouse and I like 1 wireless mouse and the rest are wired mice"

"Judge by the mice you've used previously. I recommend EloShapes. Tech wise - the OP1 8k is definitely the best and most reliable"

"You're getting downvoted, but the OP1 8K v2 firmware update software on [Endgame Gear's website](https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/downloads/op1-8k-v2) *still* has 26 detections on [VirusTotal](https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/0fd2016ff89e0ee4bce0d7eedc9b90ca696189090a15ce09ace4570fe8380f9f)."

"I use the OP1 8k and I love it. Although both mice are fine and shape is king after all. Viscose (a amazing top tier aimer) recently made a [video](https://youtu.be/ckqY5sRFMKw) about the OP1 8k and why she mains it."

"Mx518 is the goat shape of gaming mice and I’m willing to die on this hill. Also loved the g100s."

"if you want smth similar, the mx518 legendary exists but it's widely considered to be a disappointment in comparison to the original mx518"

"Two years in this mess...figured I'd share thoughts and answer some people's questions since I've tried enough different stuff. 20x11 hands And I'll preface this by saying I'm far from a zoomer. I'm a 30-something dude whose competitive days are long gone. I've never played any aimlabs or whatever. I mostly play slower stuff like Ready or Not, STALKER or Insurgency Sandstorm. Just an average FPS dude that started way back with Half Life. MX518L - As an overall shape I really like this one. I used the G5 as a kid and using this now feels just as natural. But the execution is ehh. The coating is fine for playing but it collects dead skin especially on the top parts of the main buttons like crazy. The wire is very light and easy to move around, to the point I don't even think a proper bungee is needed. The all rubber scroll wheel feels super cheap, but the actual scrolling in games and in browsing is fine. Maybe its got less steps? Not sure. The main issue with it is the main button feel. The buttons are just not well tuned. Something with the tensioning and with how they interact with the switches underneath just doesn't feel good. The second issue is the infamous ring finger ledge. My ring finger LOVES it, its placed perfectly to where my ring finger naturally rests, both the angle of the rest and the height. My pinky though, over time does not like it because it has to do all the work. Regardless, its one of the few mice that I find I can easily switch from my natural relaxed claw to palm for stability and fingertip for desktop work, browsing etc. The top part is wide for your hand to fully rest but the grip width is thin enough so that claw and fingertip are actually quite doable, unlike most of the others. I really hope a brand like Lamzu or Pulsar would do a modern take on this shape. Separated buttons from top shell, better side buttons, better, more suitable skate design, more tactile scroll, lightweight and obviously wireless. I think the ring finger ledge could be done away with and be made one single wide slope. But it has to be angled right. Xlite V3 Large - Very comfy mouse. It does force my hand onto a palm grip which kinda limits range of motion but it also makes it super stable to aim with. Coating is great especially slighty worn in. The main clicks are a bit spongy but because its such a large mouse I find my index and middle finger like to rest flat on the buttons on this one and so the soft clicks are suitable for this. The weight also feels very well balanced on it, not just in terms of centered on the mouse's length but also its height. I can't really describe it but Pulsar have done a great job with this in particular. The side buttons could be better. The scroll was fine but unfortunately its showing signs of doing the reverse inputs. Not very often but its not a thing that's going to get better. DAV3 - In short it feels like a flatter, sharper and in parts lower Xlite V3L. Slightly less grippy coating but still good enough. Scroll wheel should've been made more tactile. Main buttons are better than Xlite but not the best feeling. Side buttons are the best I've ever used on a mouse. I think however the lack of comfort grooves and curves hurts the overall feel of it. I wish it had a deeper thumb curve. I wish it had a rear right flare that extended further out. I especially wish the front right didn't cut off so sharply. But I think despite all that I play the best with it out of all of these? Take that as you wish. DAV2 X HS - I wanted to try the old DA shape after the V3 felt so similar to the Xlite. Eloshapes as well as the Rtings 3d model comparisons don't do this mouse shape justice. I don't think there's anything else like it other than maybe Razer's own discontinued Mambas. It feels wider and lower and yet the grip width at the points where your thumb and ring finger try to meet is thinner than on the V3 and the Xlite. It really feels like someone put their hand on putty and then made a shell based on that. The main buttons feel like they dip sooner than the EC-like mice making it feel like its smaller which is weird? Main clicks are my favorite of all. Side buttons are good but they have some side to side play. Scroll is also better than most of the others. My main issue with it is the coating and the weight balance. I like the coating in terms of light use because it doesn't even feel sticky and doesn't collect dead skin. But it also makes a wide mouse fairly clumsy to lift. If I played on high enough sensitivity this'd probably be the perfect mouse. The weight balance with an Ikea Ladda AAA rechargeable also feels more towards the rear, making lifting the mouse even more awkward. If someone can recommend lighter AAA rechargeables please do so. I really hope Razer does an DA Essential V2 with the old shape but lighter, wireless and better coating. Imecoo P1 - this was one of the new Chinese mice I wanted to try out, since I never had an SS Prime. And I'm glad I did because its really nice. The shape of the rear end of the mouse is my favorite. Its wide but angular and I find it fits the back of my palm perfectly. The thumb groove being so inward and almost under the index finger also feels very natural. The scroll is fine, could be more tactile. The side buttons are very meh. The main buttons feel similar to the DAV2 HS but stiffer and springier. The shape of the buttons also reminds me of the DAV2, with them dipping down sooner are lower. My main gripes with this one are the coating and the right side. The coating gets dirtier than any other of the mice, barring maybe the glossy buttons on the MX518. But the glossy ones are also a lot easier to clean, whereas dirt and dead skin seems to just stick on this coating in particular. The other gripe, the right side is with the legde... Its not wide enough for a ring finger, but the way its designed also limits how much room you have for both ring and pinky. The corner also feels more pronounced, and over longer playing sessions it can start to bother me, digging into the meat of my ring finger. But I do wish more ergo mice copy the left side of the mouse, in particular the thumb curve and the overall wide back, thin front design. To me this feels the most natural shape and with some refinement it could be amazing. Unfortunately I don't expect the Chinese brands or SteelSeries to do any innovation. Fantech Aria 2 - the oddball here obviously. Wanted to try the egg since I had tried a friends G305 and found it surprisingly nice to aim with. Neat little mouse. Feels very agile to move around. But also its a shape where I kinda move my grip around and I especially notice I overshoot on the vertical axis whenever I do larger left/right swipes. Main buttons are good, but not great. Side buttons are meh, feel kinda cheap and almost loose. Functional yes, but not really good. Scroll wheel, on the other hand is my favorite of the lot. Its a bit stiffer than the others but the notches feel very defined. Coating on it also feels really good. Grippy but doesn't seem to get nearly as dirty as say, the P1 or the DAV3."

"You definitely want more of a hump in the back of your hand. You also look like you have massive hands. The Vaxee Outset AX might actually be a really good choice for you."

"I had the exact same issue on the outset AX click and they also told me there was no issue."

"Outset AX or Thorn would be a great fit. Your grip is too tilted to not be going with an ergo."

"Smaller than the SteelSeries Prime, but very similar in shape. The main difference in shape is that the ZPW has a more inward side curvature, which I greatly like as it provides a better grip. Feels very high quality. Not flexing or creaking. Buttons do not have a noticeable wobble and also feel very high quality. I'll have a full review later."

"I swore off mice without full-size switches for middle mouse click as they just keep failing first. I've run Logitech for a long time and now got a Zaopin ZPW Max but that also failed on middle mouse button. Square switches are just shit and a matter of time before they break. After some research I decided to go for Darmoshark N7 Max as it has this assymetric ergo, palm grip friendly shape that I loved about ZPW Max. I was also looking at Endgame Gear OP1w v2. Smaller mouse, less of a bump but symmetric. Vaxee also uses normal switches for middle mouse button but I don't think price is justifiable with advent of Chinese mice that do the same but for a fraction of cost."

"Zaopin Zpw is pretty slick if you like the Prime shape. It's quite a bit smaller, but not as much as the mini."

"I've used both, the Xlite V3 I'd choose the Xlite since I'm a bit biased with ergo EC clones. The R1 Pro is a good mouse, but if you can still snatch an Xlite V3 for that cheap, I'd suggest grab that instead of the VXE, the Xlite just feels more premium in my opinion than the VXE. Love the infographic."

"I’m so over pulsar with there 1000 releases. Instead of making a good mouse they make a mouse then a month later have a new drop that slightly improved and then a month later have a new drop that slightly improved I’m over it. And the coating on the pulsar xlite v3 litterally comes off if you use their grips."

"If you get a good unit without defects/easy return policy go Xlite V3 it's great. If you can't risk it, Thorn has less chance of going wrong, it didn't "click" for me."

"That mouse is 99 g! It’s great for playing MMO/RTS games. However I would try for fps games the Kone Pure Ultra at 55 g it’s 70 at Best Buy so you can return it if you don’t like it, it has a similar shape and really comfortable imo."

"10€ is crazy man I wouldve definitely bought one, my Roccat KPU is falling apart lol"

"I remember my friend had a kone pure ultra back then, it's a great shape overall ngl"

"With your hand size I'd go for a vaxee np01s. I main the NP01, and have reviewed both on YT :) [NP01s](https://youtu.be/M8Tm7ruDHIU?si=DgITmbXGltcm0q06) [NP01](https://youtu.be/brf22ZeQD_c?si=b1yPomY3U-YuQ9YS)"

"It's real. I main the NP01S, I understand how to play the game but I can't hit anything"

"NP-01s v2 updates \- Weight 56-57g \- Sensor position adjusted to center, shape remains true to NP-01s v1 \- Clicks improved with 0ms debounce and optimized internal structure \- 5% lower latency compared to predecessor \- Navy blue and pink colorways releasing first \- Product page [ZYGEN NP-01S V2 Wireless (4K)\_Wireless Mice\_Products\_Product | VAXEE USA & Canada](https://www.vaxee.co/en/product.php?act=view&id=264) 8k Polling Upgrade & Web based driver \- Firmware upgrade to 8k will be available to current 4k receivers \- Customizable DPI in software \- Developments are being finalized & releasing soon Other points from the video \- Focus on durability & quality, avoiding excessive weight reduction \- Goal is to create long lasting products that reduce environmental impact"

"The Fantech Aria XD7 could be worth a go. Kind of a mix between the g305 and Zaopin. The best g305 replacement I've tried so far at least."

"No it's not. Feels so different in hand. The aria and orchid V2 are more similar. The thumb groove just doesn't do it for me."

"God Bless the Egg, thank you for sharing your egg with us. \- Avid Aria XD7 User."

"100% worth it. The Maya is one of my favorite recent shapes, and the build quality on mine is top notch."

"You are a claw gripper, and the Maya doesn't have a pronounced back hump so it's more suited for fingertip grips."

"You can't go wrong with either (great mice), but the Maya X is a safer choice, IMO."

"No mouse software takes more than 500mb of space so I don't really understand your point of view. But i'm not here to argue so I recommend you to take a look at some wired Zowie mice they have dpi and polling rate buttons on them and no software needed. As for specific models I highly reccomend the S2-c very good and safe shape and you can find them at a reasonable price too."

"How’s the scroll wheel and click. My s2c scrollwheel is pretty crappy and requires high pressure to click."

"I used the super light for nearly 4 years and have nothing bad to say about it and then switched to the Zowie S2-DW wireless and I’ll never go back. I always liked Zowie mice specifically the shape, feel, and button responsiveness/feel but hated their wires so I never used them much before the wireless ones came out. Now it’s like best case scenario for me personally."

"Finally someone who understands zowie giving a thoughtful response to unnecessary vitriol. I bought an EC1-C yesterday and much preferred the stiffer click and very tactile scroll wheel compared to the EC2-CW which made the clicks lighter as well as the scroll wheel. It was probably done in response to criticism from yappers who don’t assess the mouse based on esports performance requirements. Earlier this year, Jabbi had an accidental scroll wheel input on his EC2-CW which caused him to jump, get killed and lose the round he would otherwise have won. I bet if he was on EC2-C scroll wheel, that won’t have happened but when you hear people talk about zowie scroll wheels they just repeat the same nonsense “it’s loud, it’s scratchy, it’s heavy.” Yh, for good reason you….. Zowie please don’t change how you make your mice, these people don’t see the vision because they can’t, they want a product you don’t make!"

"Skip the EC1-C it's too big for ftip, if you like ergo I recommend the ec2-c or dav3 hyperspeed"

"Nice, dont listen to the hater comments, shape is king! If pros back then can play at a high level then there isnt anything wrong with a ec1-c."

"Gaming mouse industry is now saturated with all these fragile display quality mice. I still have a ec2-b that kicks like its brand new for years. Companies like finalmeme and other mouse companies are getting more fragile and more greedy with their pricing."

"100% agree - blue encoder with the ball bearing on the mouse wheel shaft is quiet, precise and has just the right amount of resistance and tactility. My ec2 was the noisiest rackety wheel out of any mouse I've ever used."

"Don’t listen to the FK and ZA comment. Theres nothing exactly like it, but gprox is okay, alienware pro wireless mouse is even closer, roccat burst pro is okay but not that similar, and I can’t speak on the MVP. I moved on to an EC2-C because while being a completely different shape, had the rounding and curves that I always liked in the WMO that is not found in any mainstream mice like logitech/razer/steelseries"

"Maybe the rog strix impact 3 wireless ? Not that expensive, the size is close, lighter and it has hotswapable switch."

"How is the coating on this mouse compared to others ? I had the Strix Impact III and Pugio sometime ago and both were pretty slippery in my hands"

"Rog Strix Impact 3. I own one and its a solid mouse. The Corsair Katar is also another option."

"the thorn is the most unique of these shapes and if you already know you like the deathadder I'd say go for that. if you have smaller hands maybe look at the deathadder hyperspeed."

"I've used the thorn for a week now and I'll say that the battery is kinda weird. Sometimes if loses charge quickly and sometimes it loses charge slowly. But on a full charge the battery lasts about 5 days for me. (1K HP mode)"

"tbh right now. all mice have good hardware and software, i would pick based on shape. in my case i daily lamzu thorn."

"The Zowie S1-C is a nice wired mouse with some weight. The Logitech G502 Hero has extra metal weights which you can add or remove to your liking. Most mice at the moment tend to be on the smaller, lighter side though."

"So it wouldn't be the same experience as the s1-c? Im afraid it would strict my aim like the s1-c."

"The three mice I have in rotation are: * GPX * Zowie S1-C * Vaxee XE For me, these three mice are similar in that they're 1) medium-sized mice, 2) have relatively flat sides with a slight curve, and 3) work as both fingertip and claw-grip mice. Some caveats though: The Zowie S1-C isn't exactly a fingertip-style mouse, but it is solidly built and works better as a claw mouse than the GPX. Also, I don't believe there's a wireless version of the S1 yet, but there is a wireless version of the S2; however, it's a much smaller mouse. The Vaxee XE is built like a tank, and is more of a fingertip-style mouse than the GPX or the Zowie S1-C, but depending on how you hold the mouse and your hand size, you may not be able to claw it comfortably. If you're looking for a replacement for the GPX, I would probably recommend trying the Vaxee XE wireless first."